They should be cheap, easy to manufacture and we’d need the ability to manufacture them quickly in vast numbers. Submarines handle land attack and ASuW. From what I’ve read, once its power exceeds 300 kilowatts then it will be capable of taking out anti-ship missiles. Thanks again for the incredibly comprehensive and well written response. Achievement-Battle for Azeroth 8.0.1-Reins of the Dapple Gray Mount and Storm's Wake Tabard Stormsong Valley, Kul Tiras is My favorite zone so far in Battle for Azeroth. It would have 3 gun-based layers of defence operating at 5km, 8km and 16km, instead of just Phalanx operating at just 1.5km. The addition of sea sparrow or rolling airframe or Sea Ceptor is essential to keep the new and very impressive British carriers safe. “It’s a great idea, but only if we bring Mk41 into the fleet, which we are doing with T26. A Ticonderoga has even more cells: 122 Mk41 cells. The whole point of the R2D2 is its extremely fine / subtle movements and ludicrous amount of tungsten it spews out. Its a part of the anti-countermeasure response. That said, Sylver is still required for Aster. The MK110 mount has the options of being self contained or it can have a feeder in the deck below it. Using a Gatling gun combined with radar in the close air defence role to create a ‘wall of steel’ offered a relatively simple solution. How does Phalanx compare to the Oerlikon Millennium Gun or the Thales RAPIDSeaGuardian? I spent all week creating various parts for Phalanx's frame. Either build ships properly or don’t build them at all. I’d like the RN to look into the feasibility of using HVPs from the main guns to take out anti-ship missiles (at 80+km from what I’ve read). IR homing on a missile doing Mach 5+ is also an issue . With respect to said hypersonic missile or the reentry vehicle of a ballistic one, they’re almost certainly going to be steered through the terminal phase by vectored thrust, so there would be no control surfaces to destroy to disable it. Against less well defended warships, support ships and land targets though RBS-15 would be useful, although I can’t see the RN buying 3 types of anti-ship missile. It’s not just the launch, I don’t know enough about the different launching ystems to know if a cold launch creates debris still or not. ; 88 mounts exclusive to Alliance characters. “with any one of the gun systems you mention. I don’t disagree that having a decent defence suite is important, but what you’re listing there is more than any serving vessel I’m aware of and also a lot of gear that isn’t operationally in use yet. Although Raytheon manufactures the system in the US, the Royal Navy’s mounts are serviced and upgraded under a rolling contract with Babcock at their facilities in Devonport Dockyard. Phalanx remains an affordable (because we already have it) way to add some extra protection against a limited set of specific threats might be more truthful ? Could be used against fast attack craft, but would be best reserved to deal with missiles. Also BOFORs is now a part of BAE and OtoBreda is now Leonardo, the 76mm guns that Leonardo make also have 3P available. ☹️. Also if a ship was operating close to a carrier, part of its radar picture would be taken up with carrier. A Burke certainly has more VLS, but a portion of them are given over to TLAM and ASROC because it’s a multi-purpose vessel. I also don’t know what RBS-15 or the NSM cost or whether they can be fired from Mk41 cells. If so we should buy the system that works best. Without their paltry 12 CAMMs they’re just overgrown, ridiculously expensive OPVs (compare them to the Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class they’re based on and tell me we’re not getting ripped off). When the mount is installed in the ship, a series of hard stops are used to limit the arcs to prevent rounds hitting the ship’s decks or superstructure. Log In Sign Up. I realise this is irrelevant to AAW, but just saying.]. It is a bit more complicated than just dropping in some Sky Sabre systems (from what I’ve read they sound great, by the way- although getting the ER missile would nice), but I don’t disagree that it could be a good idea if one of our carriers sail into particularly contested waters. The Stark was sailing with her CIWS on manual mode, as was standard procedure, but more importantly the Phalanx mount only covered a limited arc, as it was mounted at the ship's stern and thus could not engage a target approaching the bow. Why is Tahonta on this list? If they can, all the better. Sea Viper is better than the AAW systems in those ships by a fair margin, but T45 isn’t as complete a package. With respect, the T45 doesn’t have serious deficiencies in in ASuW and ASW, because those aren’t their mission. For comparison, a Burke handles pretty much all of the above, although generally speaking not as well as each of the specialised assets we have. This would also free up Merlins for ASW duties. That’s an insane approach to take. Aster obviously needs the Sylver launcher. Chris Carlson told USNI News on Monday the damage on Swift appears to be from the warhead used in a Chinese-built C-802 anti-ship missile (NATO reporting name CSS-N-8 Saccade). That said that’s probably not much more expensive than the guided munitions for 76mm guns based off the approximately $1 million per shell cost of the 155mm guided shell the Americans made. I’d say that deck penetration is vital to deal with saturation missile attacks. There’s already talk of halving our F-35B purchase and that got nothing to do with the fact that uparming & up-defending the carriers would be too expensive (which I don’t buy anyway) and has everything to do with the fact that the F-35 is too expensive to buy, fly and maintain (and too time-consuming to maintain). Figures I’ve read vary, but it’s about 17/18. Burkes do have 96 cells, but only the very newest run SM-6 and the AN/SPY-6 radars that make use of them. And Mk41 VLS for quad-packed CAMMs. 2. Wave after wave of relatively cheap suicide drones on the other hand released from aircraft beyond the range of the S-400 system (400km) could go looking for these sites and even if they’re taken out by a SAM, that doesn’t matter because the enemy has had to use an expensive missile on a much cheaper drone. The trouble is they lack range; they need to be longer ranged than all torpedoes out there. If CAMM-ER can be quad-packed, better still. Worst case scenario, the enemy uses a fuel-air bomb on the amphibious ships and the landing craft. If a Tsirkon is using “plasma stealth” it cannot be radar guided…plasma wont let radar in but it also wont let a homing radar out If it is surrounded by a plasma. I do think that we need to move away from solely relying on our SSNs and F-35 for providing land strike though. The Bofors which has been chosen for the T31 has the advantage that it’s a mature system and has the programmable 3P ammunition. Where’s the sense of urgency? I don’t know the answer to that, but Horizon’s systems could feasibly be more power hungry than T45’s, thus requiring more power generation for the same performance. There are sub-fired torpedoes with greater range than that. The rest utilise the older system, with semi-active seekers (unlike Sea Viper). 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